What do you want,
A metal or a chest
to pin it on?
Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:34:44 Kristina USA
'Letīs be a little
more serious
friends, yeah
ilegal immigration
is a serious
problem, and Mexico
has a lot to do
with that, just
donīt forget, there
are many Americans
that make millions
out of it..so,
again, please stop
playing the role of
victims!!'
Rigo,
Here is another
example of how
Illegals in my
country are taking
advantage of the
American system.
This came from the
L.A. Times.
Wouldn't you be a
"victim"
if you were taken
advantage of? This
stuff happens
everyday.
'Ana Puente was an
infant with a liver
disorder when her
aunt brought her
illegally to the
U.S. to seek
medical care. She
underwent two liver
transplants at UCLA
Medical Center as a
child in 1989 and a
third in 1998, each
paid for by the
state.
But when Puente
turned 21 last
June, she aged out
of her state-funded
health insurance
and was unable to
continue treatment
at UCLA.
This year, her
liver began failing
again and she was
hospitalized at
County-USC Medical
Center. In her
Medi-Cal
application, a USC
doctor wrote, Her
current clinical
course is
irreversible,
progressive and
will lead to death
without another
liver transplant.
The application was
denied.
The county gave her
medication but does
not have the
resources to
perform
transplants.
Late last month
Puente learned of
another,
little-known option
for patients with
certain healthcare
needs. If she
notified U.S.
Citizenship and
Immigration
Services that she
was in the country
illegally, state
health officials
might grant her
full Medi-Cal
coverage. Puente
did so, her
benefits were
restored and she is
now awaiting a
fourth transplant
at UCLA.
Puentes case
highlights two
controversial
issues: Should
illegal immigrants
receive liver
transplants in the
U.S. and should
taxpayers pick up
the cost?
The average cost of
a liver transplant
and first-year
follow-up is nearly
$490,000, and
anti-rejection
medications can run
more than $30,000
annually, according
to the United
Network for Organ
Sharing, which
oversees
transplantation
nationwide.
Donor livers are
also in scarce
supply. In
California, nearly
3,700 people are on
a waiting list for
livers, according
to the network.
Last year, 767
liver transplants
were performed in
the state. More
than 90% of the
organs were given
to U.S.
citizens.
Donor livers are
generally allocated
through a
geographically
based distribution
system on the basis
of how sick the
patients are and
how long they have
been on the
transplant waiting
list.
Immigration status
does not play a
role in allocating
organs.'
Everything about
this article is
wrong! I
understand your
point when you say
that there are
American companies
and people hiring
these illegals
because they don't
want to pay a fair
wage to Americans.
Well, those people
need to be brought
to justice. I
never said that ALL
Americans were good
people. But I did
say ALL illegals
are bad people
because they are
breaking our laws.
Even if they are
trying to make a
better life for
themselves. They
need to do things
the right way just
like my Great,
Great, Great
grandmothers did
when they came here
from Scotland and
Ireland. I still
have their
notebooks with
their writing
saying how they
kissed American
ground and how
thankful they were
to be here. They
immediatley became
citizens and my one
grandmother learned
the English
language and the
other one already
knew English. For
people to say that
we are ALL
immigrants, that is
wrong. I was born
and raised in
California, so was
my Mom and her Mom
and her Mom before
her. So don't tell
me I'm an
immigrant! I am
not! I am an
AMERICAN! Not a
Scottish American
or Irish American,
I'm an American and
very proud of
it!
Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:19:28 Alexandra Castro USA
Yes there a many
AMERICAN
hardworking
taxpaying LAW
obyeing citizens
that are victims of
illegal immigrants.
I am concerned for
ALL Americans when
they are out of
work and competing
for jobs with
people that should
never be here in
the first place.
When Americans are
killed, raped, or
robbed by an
illegal alien that
again should never
be here in the
first place, they
are victims!! Yes
our government is
all about the money
and I am not
argueing about
that. We need
representatives
that look out for
the best interest
of US...THE
AMERICAN CITIZEN!
We are not PLAYING
VICTIM'S...WE ARE
VICTIM'S! Victims
of our own
government not
protecting us. That
is what this
arguement is all
about! HELLO...GET
IT!! We are over
being invaded and
having to sit back
and take it! We are
over foreign
nationals demanding
anything from our
government! We want
our country back
and WE ARE NOT
VICTIM'S ANYMORE!
We are in this
fight to win! I am
of MEXICAN descent
and am totally
AGAINST this
illegal INVASION!!
I will not support
ANY criminal
activity just
because they are of
my same race!!
Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:00:00 Rigo Mexico
Big,
Your are so
disrespectful with
a country you
probably have never
set a foot in (like
many many Americans
that doesnīt even
know Mexico and say
stupid thing about
it. What elements
do you have to say
this is a lawless
country? what do
you mean by saying
that 5% has
"stolen"
the wealth? what do
you? have you
talked to Latin
Americans to say
such an aggresive
comment that LATAM
see us as a
disgrace? You tell
me about
corruption? why
donīt you open your
eyes and see all of
the under-the-water
bussiness of your
federal
administration in
middle east?
Big, I think you
should be thankful
I spent 5 minutes
responding such a
brainless and
offensive email
toward a country
you probably have
never visited!!
Show some class,
please.
SGT SHILTZ,
You, as oppose as
your buddy Big,
just needed two
lines to show us
all how ignorant
you are. trash?
filthy culture?
what do you know
about our culture?
I bet if I ask you
five very simple
questions about
Mexico, you canīt
even answer, but I
wonīt, you have
showed enough
ignorance with your
two lines.
Kristina, I agree,
again, with you,
and, again, I
declare that I,
being Mexican,
donīt stand the
ilegal immigration.
Now, if the data
you show us is
accurate, thatīs
too bad, but donīt
worry, USA has
probably gotten
that money out of
the middle east
where you are now
the owner of pretty
much the richest
area in the world
(ohh I forgot, the
Americans still
think you invaded
Irak for justice!!
because you care a
lot for Irak...BTW
I donīt think
neither Big nor
Shlitz even knew
where Irak was
located at the time
USA sent troops,
their sight stops
in the East
Coast.
Letīs be a little
more serious
friends, yeah
ilegal immigration
is a serious
problem, and Mexico
has a lot to do
with that, just
donīt forget, there
are many Americans
that make millions
out of it..so,
again, please stop
playing the role of
victims!!
Regs
By the way,
Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:22:28 Kristina USA
Just received this
email. Thought I
would share it with
everyone:
You think the war
in Iraq is costing
us too much?
Read this: Boy, am
I confused. I have
been hammered with
the propaganda that
it is the Iraq war
and the war on
terror that is
bankrupting us.
I now find that to
be RIDICULOUS. I
hope the following
14 reasons are
forwarded over and
over again until
they are read so
many times that the
reader gets sick of
reading them.
I have included the
URL's for
verification of all
the following
facts.
1. $11 Billion to
$22 billion is
spent on welfare to
illegal aliens each
year.
http://tinyurl.com/
zob77 >
2. $2.2 Billion
dollars a year is
spent on food
assistance programs
such as food
stamps, WIC, and
free school lunches
for illegal
aliens.
9. $200 Billion
Dollars a year in
suppressed American
wages are caused by
the illegal
aliens.
http://transcripts.
cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS
/0604/01/ldt.01.htm
l
10. The illegal
aliens in the
United States have
a crime rate that's
two and a half
times that of white
non-illegal aliens.
In particular,
their children, are
going to make a
huge additional
crime problem in
the US
http://transcripts.
cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS
/0606/12/ldt.01.htm
l
11. During the year
of 2005 there were
4 to 10 MILLION
illegal aliens that
crossed our
Southern Border
also, as many as
19,500 illegal
aliens from
Terrorist
Countries. Millions
of pounds of drugs,
cocaine,
meth, heroin and
marijuana, crossed
into the U. S from
the Southern
border.
Homeland Security
Report:
http://tinyurl.com/
t9sht
12. The National
Policy Institute,
'estimated that the
total cost of mass
deportation would
be between $206 and
$230 billion or an
average cost of
between $41 and $46
billion annually
over a five year
period.'
http://www.national
policyinstitute.org
/pdf/deportation.pd
f
13. In 2006 illegal
aliens sent home
$45 BILLION in
remittances back to
their countries of
origin.
http://www.rense.co
m/general75/niht.ht
m
14. 'The Dark Side
of Illegal
Immigration: Nearly
One Million Sex
Crimes Committed by
Illegal Immigrants
In The United
States '.
http://www.drdsk.co
m/articleshtml
The total cost is a
whopping $ 338.3
BILLION DOLLARS A
YEAR!
Check out these
websites! Very
useful
information.
Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:12:34 Elizabeth USA!!!!
Time for people to
wake up, this is NO
JOKE!!! We have an
illegal alien
invasion going on
and their loyalty
is to Mexico. It
does not take a
rocket scientist to
figure out that
this is not good
for America. The
corporations and
our government are
ate up with greed
and do not think
past the dollar
signs. It is up to
patriotic Americans
to STAND UP AND
SHOUT NO!!!!! WE
ARE AS MAD AS HELL
AND WE ARE NOT
GOING TO TAKE THIS
ANYMORE!!!!!
Mon Apr 14, 2008 08:09:13 Rachel
Thanks for this
site! I have
Learned so much
that I was not
previously aware
of!
Mon Apr 14, 2008 08:09:12 Rachel
Thanks for this
site! I have
Learned so much
that I was not
previously aware
of!
Mon Apr 14, 2008 06:27:45 Big
Mexico has been
less than a 3rd
world nation since
Spain gave the land
to Mexico. The
people have always
been lawless and
had no respect for
their own laws.
About 5% of the
people in Mexico
have stolen from
the rest and
possess all the
wealth. The
Mexican government
has been corrupt
for years and is
like a joke to the
rest of the world.
Even the rest of
the Latin countries
view Mexico as a
disgrace. These
jerks in Mexico cry
about how we treat
illegals and they
turn around and do
the same thing with
Central Americans.
Mexicans are a
bunch of hypocrits.
Mon Apr 14, 2008 04:45:31 Alex
That's
bullshit...
Think a little more
people !!
oh yeah that's true
you don't care, i'm
French so i'm just
a bastard along
with the other
Mexican ones !!
you made me laught
too !! what a
beautiful website,
keep on !
Mon Apr 14, 2008 00:39:30 Sherry
testing
Sun Apr 13, 2008 18:11:32 zeezil USA
Mexicans belong in
Mexico - thats why
they are called
Mexicans
Sun Apr 13, 2008 15:40:25 A is for Apple
Jennifer: Our own
bullshit? So, the
fact that our
ancestors fought
hard (and often
died) for our
freedoms is
bullshit? The
Treaty of Hidalgo
and Gadsden
Purchase are both
bullshit? That the
illegal aliens
& their
supporters pick and
choose which laws
to follow while
others are required
to follow all laws
is bullshit? I
could go on, but I
hope you get the
idea by now
A: Actually, I
believe it you had
a more through
understanding of
the Treaty of
Guadalupe Hidalgo I
think you would
quickly realize
that in fact, the
government decided
to "pick and
choose which laws
to follow".
Systematically
ratifying portions
of the treaty that
the U.S. government
would honor and
guarantee ALL land
grants awarded in
lands ceded to the
United States to
citizens of Spain
and Mexico.
So your ancestors
fought hard to
ensure that they
could trample on
the rights of other
peoples (American
and otherwise) and
DIS-honor many of
the promises made
through said
treaties. So yes,
to answer your
question, the
Treaty of Guadalupe
Hidalgo is in fact
bullshit. Before
you make such silly
statements about
abiding by the
"law",
please know the
history which you
use to support your
arguments...
"A general
survey of this era
in American history
reveals one
constant: the
United States,
through an
unwritten policy of
territorial
expansionism via
political and
judicial avenues,
has denied Mexican
Americans their
Constitutional
rights both as
landowners and as
citizens in
general. In
addition, the
history of the
Treaty and the
United States'
subsequent failure
*236 to adhere to
the Treaty's spirit
and intent reveals
a microcosm of race
relations
throughout United
States
history."
(qtd. from Saying
We're Sorry? New
Federal Legislation
and the Forgotten
Promises of the
Treaty of Guadalupe
Hidalgo , 3
Scholar: St. Mary's
Law Review on
Minority Issues
231-264, 232-236)
Sun Apr 13, 2008 15:07:40 D USA (PROUD OF IT)
Hey, D, could you
get any more
moronic?
"D"
Wrote: Listen to
yourselves...You
guys buy your own
bullshit.
Jennifer: Our own
bullshit? So, the
fact that our
ancestors fought
hard (and often
died) for our
freedoms is
bullshit? The
Treaty of Hidalgo
and Gadsden
Purchase are both
bullshit? That the
illegal aliens
& their
supporters pick and
choose which laws
to follow while
others are required
to follow all laws
is bullshit? I
could go on, but I
hope you get the
idea by now.
D SAYS: These
people fought hard
in the same wars
and our side...so
whats your
point?
"D"
Wrote: Why dont
they fine or sue
american businesses
for hiring aliens
more often? Have
you ever thought
about this? Its
because business
and government
likes them and
wants them in this
country.
Jennifer: They are
starting to do that
to businesses and
they are trying to
do more, such as
the E-Verify
system, etc. It
doesn't matter what
the government
likes or wants,
because they are
supposed to listen
to the citizens of
this country, and
we will see to it
that they start.
Any who do not care
to listen to us
will be voted
out.
D SAYS: WHERE HAVE
YOU BEEN???!!!
This has been a law
for 20 years. Do
you know how many
businesses get
fined? Look it up.
Its one the web.
Its miniscule.
"D"
Wrote: You guys
pick on these pawns
and focus all the
anger you have on
them because you
lack the balls and
intelligence to
take on the real
culprits...AMERICAN
BUSINESS.
Jennifer: All of us
who are
anti-illegal alien
have been pushing
for a crackdown on
both the illegal
aliens as well as
the businesses who
hire them and the
people and special
interest groups who
aid and abet them.
What do you think
"attrition
through
enforcement"
means? Take away
the goodies and the
reasons they come
and stay, and they
will leave on their
own.
Besides that, most
of the businesses
do not recruit in
Mexico or other
countries (some do,
but they are not
the majority), so
if the illegals
weren't here, the
companies couldn't
(easily) hire them,
and would thus have
to hire citizens
and legal residents
at fair wages.
D SAYS: This is
where you make your
mistake. The
reason business
doenst push for
this is because
they dont wanna
hire Americans.
Americans wont work
for less than
minimum wage. They
wont even work for
minimum wage.
($5.65 an hour) If
you were truly pro
American you'd get
the government and
business to raise
the minimum $10
dollars an hour.
They wont because
they dont care that
Americans cant
survive on that.
"D"
Wrote: Please
continue your
attacks and tirades
against these
defenseless people.
Dont worry about
them not being able
to do anything
about their
situation. There no
going to call the
cops our rise up
against
you...they're too
scared.
Jennifer: Have you
lost your mind?
Defenseless people?
Get real! Did you
miss all the
marching and
rallying in our
streets that they
have done time and
time again? The
demands for their
"rights"
and citizenship --
rights they have no
right to demand,
much less
receive.
And let's not even
talk about them
"not being
able to do anything
about their
situation"
because that is so
much bunk.
D SAYS: It was a
protest. Not a
riot. So stop being
dramatic.
Jennifer: What if
our ancestors
thought that way?
Where would we be?
We'd be in the same
boat as Mexico --
or at least a
similar one. As it
is, our ancestors
grew some and
fought for our
freedom -- often at
the expense of
their own lives.
Are you saying
Mexicans shouldn't
have to do the same
if they want
freedom? Why not?
They have options
and they could
fight for their
freedom -- THEY
CHOOSE NOT TO.
Their choice, so
let them deal with
it -- IN MEXICO.
They made their
bed, now they can
lie in it...or do
something to change
it.
D SAYS: OUr
ancestors did the
same thing these
people are doing.
They couldnt make
it in Europe so
they came over
here. They didn't
send well to do
business me over
here. They sent
people trying to
escape
persecution....THE
PILGRIMS. Buy a
history book,
And who cares if
they don't call the
police? They
shouldn't be here.
If they respected
our laws (and our
country and its
people) they would
never have been
here and thus
couldn't have been
the victim of a
crime here. THEY
BROUGHT IT ON
THEMSELVES!
Also, what about
all the crimes
illegal aliens
commit? Every crime
committed by an
illegal alien is a
crime that NEVER
should have
happend. Had our
immigration laws
been enforced and
if the illegal
aliens were law
abiding and
respectful (to
include respect for
our laws), the
illegal would not
have been here to
commit the crime
and the poor victim
wouldn't have been
a victim. Who is to
pay for those poor
people that are the
victims of illegal
alien crimes?? You
should feel sorry
for the citizens
and legal
residents, not some
ignorant illegal
alien.
D SAYS: So its
their fault for
being victimized by
ignorant people
such as yourself?
Very christian of
you. You've burned
way too many
crosses. The smoke
is getting to your
brain.
"D"
Wrote: Or is it you
all who are the
true COWARDS.
Jennifer: Nope.
They are cowards
for refusing to fix
their own country.
And you are
anti-American and a
traitor.
D SAYS: Spare me.
If they are cowards
so are we for
leaving Europe.
Trust me, the only
thing American
about you is your
locale. Get an
education and get
back to me.
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